Combining a Shaving Horse and Bowl Carving Bench – My “Mk III” Shaving Horse.

I’ve got about 8 shaving horses, which I use for running public workshops. I had previously made a batch of shaving horses from packing crate material and other recycled wood, which I did a post about  in July 2014.
Since then I have made another version, like a super-modified saw horse. Let’s call it the Mk II – a multifunctional shaving horse and bowl carving horse combo. My favourite horse, it is about 7 feet long, has fixed legs, and a heavy vise built into the tail of the bench. All this limits its portability.

Some of the original shaving horses, English Bodger style on the left and Dumbhead style on the right.

The Mk II Shaving Horse / Carving bench combo. A beautiful beast – with a tail vise!

The Mk II has fixed legs, as it is a supermodified saw horse at it’s core. Being all jarrah, it is heavy. It is very versatile in its holding capacity, but there are times when it is too big or tricky to transport. 

I was invited by Timbecon to demonstrate Green Woodworking at the Brisbane “Timber & Working with Wood” Show on 15-17 May 2015. With my gear needing to be transported three thousand kilometres across the continent, I had the need to make a portable and versatile bench fairly quickly to catch the truck. Hence the Mk III was conceived. I was going to Brisbane, as the Mk II was not going to be friendly to ship on a pallet of stuff.

OK, so lets make a shaving horse combo which will be easier to ship. This means its got to have folding or removable legs…

Deciding on the Characteristics of the Mk III.Shaving Horse.
I built my first shaving horse, Mr Smiley, at the legendary Roy Underhill’s Woodwright’s School in North Carolina in late 2013. This was a classic “dumb-head” style, made entirely by hand from timber we mostly extracted from the forest using cross-cut saw and axe, then fashioned with side axe, adze, shaving horse, draw knife, brace and bit, etc. Amid the stable of horses at Roy’s, there were a couple of shaving horses of the English Bodger’s style. I particularly liked this style.

Me using Mr Smiley. I left him in Roy Underhill’s Woodwright’s School stable. 
Mr Smiley, with embedded Australian $2 coins for eyes. 

Horse-cam. Making Mr Smiley’s walnut legs on an English Bodger’s style shaving horse at Roy’s.

Not sure why, but I seem to prefer the English Bodger’s style of Shaving Horse. Hence the Mk II and Mk III were both made in this style.

Veritas Tools used to have free Shaving Horse plans available on their website, which I saw before planning the Mk II. One of the things which caught my eye was the use of the back end of the bench/seat for additional holding options. Now there was an idea…

The Veritas Bench, with additional rear gripping between dogs and wedges.
Image from the Veritas website.

When doing bowl carving, I have been using a very low wide-topped saw horse which has dog holes in its top for gripping he bowl blanks. What if these functions were built into the back end of a shaving horse? When I made the Mk II, I even installed a big vise in the back end of the bench. Awesome.

As the Mk III was to be portable, I would make the horse a little shorter than the MkII, put a twin row of dog holes in the bench for bowl carving, and not install the vise (which would add a lot to the weight).

Of course, it would be made from recycled wood. I happened to have a couple of ancient house beams, of Oregon (known outside Australia as Douglas Fir). I docked one of these to length, dressed the stick, and bored dog holes in it. It would be a nice solid bench/seat. Jarrah would be used for the legs, treadle frame, the ramp, and the bench accessories. The legs would fold, and be held flat to the bench when packed flat, using a couple of coach screws. To put up the legs, undo the coach screws, fold the legs out, and wind in the same coach screws in at the base of the struts. Solid as a rock.

The horse/bench folded flat, with all the accessories.

Fold up the legs, and wind in the coach screw at the base of the prop.
The assembled shaving horse. A rotating head on the treadle frame.
Variability with 3 hole positions in the bench, and 3 holes in the treadle frame.
Rotating head, and a sliding support block under the ramp.
Bowl holding on edge. The foot vise is fantastic. You sit behind the end post.
A couple of sets of folding wedges and side blocks.
Great gripping power when adzing out bowls.
Holdfasts go well for holding work too.
Not a bad beast. Solid, reliable, and versatile.
It’s also much easier to ship and to pack away than the Mk II.
You still need a small box to hold the bolts, head, and accessories.

The Mk III takes about 5 minutes to assemble, creating a very solid saving horse, bowl carving bench, and general low bench. … I do miss that tail vise though!

I love the way ideas evolve…

The Mk III was test driven for the first time at the Brisbane Wood Show. A nice horse too.

The film crew from QUT did a story around my demo area.
Here you can see the Mk III in action, ridden by Bernie the Journo.
This pic gives an idea of the size of the horse.

Don’t worry, I am already thinking about the possible characteristics of the Mk IV!!
The buzz-“phrase is “Continuous Improvement”, isn’t it?

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  1. Matt on December 2, 2016 at 06:37

    Thanks for posting this article, I really enjoyed reading it. I found your site because I was looking to see if anyone had made a pole lathe/shavehorse combo…haven't found one yet but I was thinking of combining the two for fayres etc. So the legs on the left side of the lathe would also form the front of the horse. Or something! I don't know I'll figure it out one day. Cheers and take care. Matt (Somerset, UK)



  2. Brian Boatright on December 12, 2016 at 09:31

    Do you sell plans for your Mk III shaving horse?



  3. Greg Miller on December 13, 2016 at 22:52

    I am with you, Matt. I was planning to do the same thing with my Mk II Shaving horse/Bowl carving combo bench. I even did some preliminary sketches – but just haven't had time. Meanwhile. I am working on the Mk IV Multi Horse! It's a Shaving horse/Bowl Carving Bench/ Spoon Carving Mule Combo. Hmmm, maybe I could add the pole lathe as well??



  4. Greg Miller on January 3, 2018 at 20:30

    Gidday, Jorge. As the last part of this post says, the plans are now available for purchase. I intend to produce plans for sale of the Mk II and others, in due course.



  5. Anonymous on September 14, 2018 at 22:29

    I would love any plans or information on your awesome shave/bowl horse. jimco873@aol.com thank you



  6. Unknown on October 7, 2018 at 05:13

    I'm a spoon/bowl carver living in an apartment with limited space. As such most of my carving is done either in the kitchen or out in woods… Any info you could give on building the bench and measurements would be much appreciated.



  7. Unknown on December 27, 2018 at 01:21

    Greg, very nice work. I would be interested in obtaining measurements etc from your Dec.16, 2016 comments, I have just moved to Memphis Tn and do not have a shop yet, This would be a tremendous help. Thanks and happy New Year to you.



  8. jan on January 3, 2019 at 19:04

    Hi greg, I'm very interseted in the plans and measuments.



  9. Greg Miller on January 14, 2019 at 06:28

    Gidday, Jan. The plans are available to purchase. Send me an email from your email linked to your Paypal account and we can take it from there. Cheers, Greg.



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